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Thefts and Vandalism

Discussion in 'Heritage railways & Centres in the Uk' started by rough-shunter, Dec 26, 2006.

    Thefts from Embsay and KWVR (can you help?)

    Unfortunately several thefts have taken place recently. These have ranged from carriage parts to reproduction cast 'Embsay' plates from the back of several benches on the station. A brakevan stove, a Tyers No.6 tablet machine and several LNWR groundframe parts were also taken. Also missing (although we do not know when it vanished) is the actual 'gong' from the former Skipton shunting gong that S&T were planning to return to use. Anyone who might come across such items is requested to contact the Railway so that appropriate action can be taken.

    taken from the website
     
  1. david1984

    david1984 Resident of Nat Pres

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    Re: stolen from embsay

    I think this proves the theif is something of a thicko as any such item would be easily recgonised as stolen if trying to be sold on, hopefully should be easier to catch the dopey gimp too.
     
  2. its a sad fact of preservation the dishonest few but it can be stopped
     
  3. Timothy Hackworth Jr

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    I was at Keighley yesterday and understand that the Damems repro totems have all been nicked too. Honestly.
     
  4. its disgusting why would tey want these items
     
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    Beaker Well-Known Member

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    Wow they must be strong
     
  6. indeed or thy had assistance
     
  7. TJMoody

    TJMoody Guest

    Indeed. The following repro signs have all been stolen from KWVR property recently:

    Totems from : keighley, damems, haworth

    door plates from : ingrow

    poster board header plates saying 'Worth Valley' from : damems

    'do not trespass' signs (with worth valley totem on!) from : damems

    and a variety of other small bits and bobs from Oakworth - including some particularly nice looking 1penny sweet vending machines.

    All have been reported to police who are dealing

    They all have limited value as - except the sweet machines - all are reproduction signs anyway (they are still costly for us to replace however!).

    Again, if anyone happens to see these, please let us at the KWVR know.

    TJM
     
  8. this has to be the same people its not like the items can be sold on other than scrap
     
  9. spoke to steven walker from embsay and old him anout coppernob kwvr thefts he knew about kwvr but not about the nrm
     
  10. cct man

    cct man Part of the furniture

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    I think you will find that these items are usually stolen to order mainly to an avid collector.

    Yes it is sad when the few spoil it for the many.

    CCT MAN
     
  11. TJMoody

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    West Yorkshire Police are hot on the case and have made a press release today with CCTV pictures. The story has been picked up by the Bradford Telegraph & Argus, and I understand other media has been in contact with Haworth Station. Perhaps they may be caught after all!

    Full details here :

    http://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/sect ... 2&iid=2981
     
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    46118 Part of the furniture

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    Why steal repro totems and the like?

    Dont tell me they thought they were the original BR enamelled totems surely?

    Thicko's indeed!
     
  13. most people wont know the difference between the two
     
  14. stepney60

    stepney60 Nat Pres stalwart

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    If it was for a serious collector I would have thought they would want the actual rather than reproduction totems. If they were then they might now be considering getting these replicas off their hands, so be vigilant now as it could start to come up
     
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    50035_arkroyal New Member

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    Wanted!

    Pictures of 2 thieves and more info is on the KWVR website:

    http://www.kwvr.co.uk/misc/thefts.htm

    Contact Keighley CID on 01535 617059 or Crimestoppers anonymously and in confidence on 0800 555 111 if you have any info.

    Andy
     
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    There have been a few threads and posts recently about various thefts and acts of vandalism taking place at heritage railway venues.

    A friend of mine is attending the HRA meeting this weekend, and they are very keen to raise the profile of recent events. He will be suggesting the following:-

    * a dedicated THIEF WATCH section on the HRA website which will list items stolen, (and from whom and when) and the contact name and number of the investigating police officer, the crime number and any other relevant information -- the site also to contain basic "what to do if thieves strike" info such as contacting the police, getting the crime number, alerting local media, eBay, scrap yards, etc.
    * a similar column in the railway enthusiast press -- I understand that the HRA's press officer has had encouraging discussions with editors and I'm working with him to develop this
    * I want all member railways to give a link on their website to the THIEF WATCH page on the HRA website
    * I will suggest to the meeting that the HRA's Parliamentary contacts approach the Home Office and the Department for Culture, Media and Sport to make them aware of the scale of the problem and to seek their assistance in alerting police forces to the fact that these crimes may well be linked and part of co-ordinated criminal activity rather than just localised incidents -- and that the nation's railway heritage is under threat from thieves (not just the cost of the items lost but the cost of security, repairs, loss of revenue and the dispiriting effect on hard working volunteers)
    * consider how best money might be raised for a reward for information leading to the conviction of those responsible for thefts and attacks on heritage railway sites (any ideas on who to approach gratefully received!)
    * any other relevant action delegates may suggest.

    Could I take this opportunity to ask both the moderators, admin etc, and all the members to support these measures, and make this topic a "sticky" and for anyone to add to this any further instances or information relating to convictions etc.

    I am sure that for once we have a topic we can all agree on!!!!!
     
  17. Dan Hamblin

    Dan Hamblin Part of the furniture

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    Very good ideas Louth, I hope they are acted upon :smt001

    Regards,

    Dan
     
  18. great ideas
    get them done
     
  19. eveningstar

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    Even though some of the items are repros its still very upsetting for those people involved with the restoration of the stations and locomotives to see these type of thefts by mindless idiots these people are not railway enthusiasts but vandals.

    Mark kwvlr volunteer
     

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